Fourth Generation

8. Mr Richard Hooper Ross PHILP was born on 18 Mar 1868 in St Georges, Surrey / (Southwark 1901).^2,46 [[[[Birth note: Query our source. 1881 census aged 13 and named R H N P.
Is N an old or new error?][Richard HR aged 23, b Surrey London on 1891 census][1871 aged 3 b Surrey St George][Richard H aged 33 1901]]]] In 1891 he was a Sawmill Labourer (Sawyer).⁴⁷ [Occupation note: !891 census: St George the Martyr. Sawyer added after Sawmill Labourer ] He lived 12 Darwin Street, Bermondsey in Bermondsey in 1891.⁴⁷ [[Resided at note: 1891 census][Occupied 2 rooms of a house with 3 other families in other rooms]] In Nov 1891 he was a Bus conductor.⁴⁸ [Occupation note: Son's Birth document BP3 is an original Certified true Copy]. About 1901 he was a Boring hand Brush Trade. Worker..⁴⁹ [Occupation note: 1901 Census] He lived 6, Skelton Cott,, Edmonton in Edmonton about 1901.⁴⁹ [Resided at note: 1901] He was a Carrier. [Occupation note: He did light work with a pony and van. Sometimes he delivered Singer sewing machines to the Singer shop in Newington Causeway. Source:- Edward Philp]. He died on 18 Feb 1922 in ? year and Crumpsall in Prestwich R-d?.⁵⁰ [[Death note: looked through findmypast GRO copies. A possible is: Richard HR aged 54 in Mar Q 1922. (1868 add 54 is 1922) Would he have died in Prestwich 8d 388? (cert sent for 15 Dec '06)][Cert arrived 27 Dec (DYB 281336 18 Dec 2006) our ref RC DP *: RD Prestwich in S-d Cheetham in the County of Manchester: No. 107: 18 Feb 1922 at 123 Crescent Road Crumpsall: Male: 54 years: of 301 Bradford Road Manchester, a Plasterer (Foreman): RH Hill Occupier 123 Crescent Road Crumpsall: on 22 Feb 1922: to AB Holbrook]] [General note: CHC (G) says she has a photo that she said is of him during the war in France. Source ?????]

Mr Richard Hooper Ross PHILP and Miss Margaret Ellen GARDINER were married in 1890.⁵¹ [Marriage note: He met wife where he worked. (FBMD Sep 1790 St Saviour 1d 218 to Richard Hooper R)] Miss Margaret Ellen GARDINER (daughter of Mr James Adolphus GARDINER and Miss Ellen DESMOND) was born on 2 Mar 1871 in St Olaves, Southwark, Surrey.^2,52,53 [[[[[Birth note: BG4 is an official Certified Copy. Note 6 m delay on Registering and 2 Signatures. Note no Ellen as middle name
RC ref BG4. Cert CM 227787 dated 8 May 2001, signed by L Rimins (?) Deputy Superintendant Registrar.
Original entry 395, RD St Olave, S-d St Olave, in the County of Surrey.
Margaret GARDINER, 2 Mar 1871 at 1 Green Bank.
Father: James GARDINER, Bricklayer, of 1, Green Bank, Tooley Street, Southwark,
Registered Birth on 31 Aug 1871 with William Chandler, Deputy Registrar and Wm Bergn Hurst, Superintendent Registrar.
Mother: Ellen Gardiner, formerly DESMOND.]
[1881 Census. Aged 10. Born in Southwark, Surrey][1891 census aged 20][1871 Census aged 2m][date from Margaret Philp]]]]] She lived in Southwark, 1 Green Bank Southwark about 1871.^53,54 [Resided at note: Birth cert. and 1871 Census] She lived in Southwark, 20 Green Bank, Southwark about 1881.⁵⁵ About 1891 she was a Jam Finisher in Factory (conf).⁵⁶ [Occupation note: Conf added after Jam Finisher] She lived 12 Darwin Street Bermondsey in Bermondsey in 1891.⁴⁷ [Resided at: 1891 census] About 1901 she was an Assistant Glass & China shop. Own account. At home..⁴⁹ [Occupation note: 1901: Own account] She lived in 6 Skelton Cott, Shop about 1901. [[General note: She left her husband between 1901 and 1911 ? Source CHC (G) from HKMG (P)][We did not find anyone suitable in 1911]] Mr Richard Hooper Ross PHILP and Miss Margaret Ellen GARDINER had the following children:

+18	i.	Mr Richard Hooper Ross PHILP.
+19	ii.	Miss Margaret Rachel PHILP.
20	iii.	Mr Frederick Henry PHILP32,57 was born about Nov 1896 in Bermondsey, London.57,58 [[[[Birth note: not mentioned in RHRP SSPB as sibling][Aged 4 on 1901 Census][FBMD Dec q 1896 St Olave RD is correct area][See death note from 1837online. Named as Fred Henry]]]] He died on 28 Mar 1918.59 [[Death note: family history. CHC also has a photo][Update: from 1837 online: Killed in action. Served in France and Flanders. Territorial Force in Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery. Born Bermondsey SE. Enlisted Bloomsbury WC. Rank A/Bdr. No 925089]] [[Birth note: Frederick H aged 4 on 1901 Census][Frederick Henry on FBMD Dec q 1896 St Olave 1d 218]]
+21	iv.	Mr Albert (Edward) PHILP.
+22	v.	Mr Alfred Edward PHILP.